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Some of us are trying very hard to ensure that we continue to live in a free world where expressing your views is not prohibited...However, on one issue in particular, it seems that we may not be winning or even allowed to win. When it comes to saying anything about the Holocaust that does not follow the recognised historical line, free speech is dead. Hell, you can even be imprisoned for holding this opinion in some countries. For anybody in any doubt, consider David Irving currently imprisoned in Austria and the potential for similar treatment for people in the UK should these recommendations be enforced. Imprisoned for an opinion, what is the world coming to? What are people so afraid of? Why not allow an honest debate to happen? Many people, myself included, think that any number of people (and that number includes ONE), regardless of race, religion, gender or social class, being destroyed is abhorrent and the actions of Hitler's Nazi Germany are no exception. So what are this small number of powerful Jewish statesmen so terrified of? No-one in their right mind is ever going to say "they deserved it", as nobody does, not even Hitler himself. Nor is anybody in their right mind going to say "the number killed was not quite as many as we have been led to believe so we don’t care." Anybody prepared to make any such statements deserves neither the time nor the energy that would be expended on the task of admonishing them. I might even be tempted to add the phrase "sticks and stones" at this point, but it does seem a mite flippant given the subject matter! We should leave the evil and callous amongst us to themselves and not devote any time to their hatred and bigotry, but also accept that, should they harm a single person, the full force of THE LAW should be brought to bear upon them. However, In the light of this statement by Israel, we felt it might be fair to summarise the Arab position as it was in 1947, when, it would appear, minds were clearer, animosities were less engrained and anti-semitism was understood to be a very, VERY different "animal" than it seems to be today. What follows is a letter written by King Abdullah of Jordan in November 1947 for consumption by the American public, entitled, "As The Arabs See The Jews." It is followed by the Reuters report of the latest cries of anti-semitism coming from Israel. I publish the two side-by-side in the hope that we will all be able to better understand this complex issue and from more than one "sides" perspective. That said, and hopefully the point of my article made clear, I look forward to the usual "you are an anti-semitic pig" hate mail from our friends in the Israeli Cyber Soldier Brigade! Many thanks to Baniadam for digging this out and putting it on our forum. |
| Friday 6th October 2006 | King Hussein Of Jordan's website Original article entitled "As The Arabs See The Jews" | link | |
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Pointing to the tragedy of the holocaust that Jews suffered during World War II, the monarch asks why America and Europe are refusing to accept more than a token handful of Jewish immigrants and refugees. It is unfair, he argues, to make Palestine, which is innocent of anti-Semitism, pay for the crimes of Europe. [Ed: or the Zionists] King Abdullah also asks how Jews can claim a historic right to Palestine, when Arabs have been the overwhelming majority there for nearly 1300 Years
His Majesty King Abdullah,
I hope you will not think I am being bitter about this. I have tried hard to understand that mysterious paradox, and I confess I cannot. Nor can any other Arab. Perhaps you have been informed that "the Jews in Europe want to go to no other place except Palestine." This myth is one of the greatest propaganda triumphs of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, the organisation which promotes with fanatic zeal the emigration to Palestine. It is a subtle half-truth, thus doubly dangerous. The astounding truth is that nobody on earth really knows where these unfortunate Jews really want to go! You would think that in so grave a problem, the American, British, and other authorities responsible for the European Jews would have made a very careful survey, probably by vote, to find out where each Jew actually wants to go. Amazingly enough this has never been done! The Jewish Agency has prevented it. Some time ago the American Military Governor in Germany was asked at a press conference how he was so certain that all Jews there wanted to go to Palestine. His answer was simple: "My Jewish advisors tell me so." He admitted no poll had ever been made. Preparations were indeed begun for one, but the Jewish Agency stepped in to stop it. The truth is that the Jews in German camps are now subjected to a Zionist pressure campaign which learned much from the Nazi terror. It is dangerous for a Jew to say that he would rather go to some other country, not Palestine. Such dissenters have been severely beaten, and worse. Not long ago, in Palestine, nearly 1,000 Austrian Jews informed the international refugee organisation that they would like to go back to Austria, and plans were made to repatriate them. The Jewish Agency heard of this, and exerted enough political pressure to stop it. It would be bad propaganda for Zionism if Jews began leaving Palestine. The nearly 1,000 Austrian are still there, against their will. The fact is that most of the European Jews are Western in culture and outlook, entirely urban in experience and habits. They cannot really have their hearts set on becoming pioneers in the barren, arid, cramped land which is Palestine. One thing, however, is undoubtedly true. As matters stand now, most refugee Jews in Europe would, indeed, vote for Palestine, simply because they know no other country will have them. If you or I were given a choice between a near-prison camp for the rest of our lives—or Palestine—we would both choose Palestine, too. But open up any other alternative to them—give them any other choice, and see what happens! No poll, however, will be worth anything unless the nations of the earth are willing to open their doors—just a little—to the Jews. In other words, if in such a poll a Jew says he wants to go to Sweden, Sweden must be willing to accept him. If he votes for America, you must let him come in. Any other kind of poll would be a farce. For the desperate Jew, this is no idle testing of opinion: this is a grave matter of life or death. Unless he is absolutely sure that his vote means something, he will always vote for Palestine, so as not to risk his bird in the hand for one in the bush. In any event, Palestine can accept no more. The 65,000 Jews in Palestine in 1918 have jumped to 600,000 today. We Arabs have increased, too, but not by immigration. The Jews were then a mere 11 per cent of our population. Today they are one third of it. The rate of increase has been terrifying. In a few more years—unless stopped now—it will overwhelm us, and we shall be an important minority in our own home. Surely the rest of the wide world is rich enough and generous enough to find a place for 200,000 Jews—about one third the number that tiny, poor Palestine has already sheltered. For the rest of the world, it is hardly a drop in the bucket. For us it means national suicide. We are sometimes told that since the Jews came to Palestine, the Arab standard of living has improved. This is a most complicated question. But let us even assume, for the argument, that it is true. We would rather be a bit poorer, and masters of our own home. Is this unnatural? The sorry story of the so-called "Balfour Declaration," which started Zionist immigration into Palestine, is too complicated to repeat here in detail. It is grounded in broken promises to the Arabs—promises made in cold print which admit no denying. We utterly deny its validity. We utterly deny the right of Great Britain to give away Arab land for a "national home" for an entirely foreign people. Even the League of Nations sanction does not alter this. At the time, not a single Arab state was a member of the League. We were not allowed to say a word in our own defense. I must point out, again in friendly frankness, that America was nearly as responsible as Britain for this Balfour Declaration. President Wilson approved it before it was issued, and the American Congress adopted it word for word in a joint resolution on 30th June, 1922. In the 1920s, Arabs were annoyed and insulted by Zionist immigration, but not alarmed by it. It was steady, but fairly small, as even the Zionist founders thought it would remain. Indeed for some years, more Jews left Palestine than entered it—in 1927 almost twice as many. But two new factors, entirely unforeseen by Britain or the League or America or the most fervent Zionist, arose in the early thirties to raise the immigration to undreamed heights. One was the World Depression; the second the rise of Hitler. In 1932, the year before Hitler came to power, only 9,500 Jews came to Palestine. We did not welcome them, but we were not afraid that, at that rate, our solid Arab majority would ever be in danger. But the next year—the year of Hitler—it jumped to 30,000! In 1934 it was 42,000! In 1935 it reached 61,000! It was no longer the orderly arrival of idealist Zionists. Rather, all Europe was pouring its frightened Jews upon us. Then, at last, we, too, became frightened. We knew that unless this enormous influx stopped, we were, as Arabs, doomed in our Palestine homeland. And we have not changed our minds. I have the impression that many Americans believe the trouble in Palestine is very remote from them, that America had little to do with it, and that your only interest now is that of a humane bystander. I believe that you do not realise how directly you are, as a nation, responsible in general for the whole Zionist move and specifically for the present terrorism. I call this to your attention because I am certain that if you realise your responsibility you will act fairly to admit it and assume it. Quite aside from official American support for the "National Home" of the Balfour Declaration, the Zionist settlements in Palestine would have been almost impossible, on anything like the current scale, without American money. This was contributed by American Jewry in an idealistic effort to help their fellows. The motive was worthy: the result were disastrous. The contributions were by private individuals, but they were almost entirely Americans, and, as a nation, only America can answer for it. The present catastrophe may be laid almost entirely at your door. Your government, almost alone in the world, is insisting on the immediate admission of 100,000 more Jews into Palestine—to be followed by countless additional ones. This will have the most frightful consequences in bloody chaos beyond anything ever hinted at in Palestine before. It is your press and political leadership, almost alone in the world, who press this demand. It is almost entirely American money which hires or buys the "refugee ships" that steam illegally toward Palestine: American money which pays their crews. The illegal immigration from Europe is arranged by the Jewish Agency, supported almost entirely by American funds. It is American dollars which support the terrorists, which buy the bullets and pistols that kill British soldiers—your allies—and Arab citizens—your friends. We in the Arab world were stunned to hear that you permit open advertisements in newspapers asking for money to finance these terrorists, to arm them openly and deliberately for murder. We could not believe this could really happen in the modern world. Now we must believe it: we have seen the advertisements with our own eyes. I point out these things because nothing less than complete frankness will be of use. The crisis is too stark for mere polite vagueness which means nothing. I have the most complete confidence in the fair-mindedness and generosity of the American public. We Arabs ask no favours. We ask only that you know the full truth, not half of it. We ask only that when you judge the Palestine question, you put yourselves in our place. What would your answer be if some outside agency told you that you must accept in America many millions of utter strangers in your midst—enough to dominate your country—merely because they insisted on going to America, and because their forefathers had once lived there some 2,000 years ago? Our answer is the same. And what would be your action if, in spite of your refusal, this outside agency began forcing them on you? Ours will be the same. |
| Monday 9th October 2006 | Reuters Original article entitled "Israelis divided on invoking Holocaust against Iran" | link | |
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Perhaps unsurprisingly, Israeli leaders have long been quick to liken Middle Eastern foes to Adolf Hitler -- Egypt's late Gamal Abdel Nasser, Iraq's Saddam Hussein, the Palestinians' former leader Yasser Arafat, and, currently, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has argued that Ahmadinejad, with his Holocaust denials and calls for the elimination of the Jewish state, "speaks today like Hitler before taking power". Olmert's homeland security minister, Avi Dichter, urged the West to consider Iran's nuclear ambitions and "imagine how World War Two would have turned out had Nazi Germany gotten the bomb". But some Israeli historians, military experts and even a government official caution that, by invoking the Holocaust too readily regarding Iran, the country risks a credibility crisis. Though it has bested Arab enemies in past wars, Israel might be incapable of taking on Iran alone. Should the veiled threats of Olmert and others against Iran not be carried out, it could undermine Israel's long-standing posture of military autonomy. "In Israel, likening someone to a Nazi in theory creates both legitimacy for attacking him, and a moral imperative to do so," said Ami Ayalon, a retired navy admiral who is now a senior member of parliament's Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee. "But when it comes to a complex strategic issue like Iran, our leadership is liable to talk itself into a corner," he said. "I say: If you're going to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." Ahmadinejad insists his country's nuclear programme is for energy needs only. He has denied seeking military confrontation with Israel, saying that he wants to see the "Zionist regime" dismantled, perhaps through universal Palestinian suffrage. Such rhetoric rings hollow for many Israelis, not least given Iranian support for Islamic militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah, which advocate the Jewish state's violent demise. A deeper grievance is Ahmadinejad's public questioning of whether Nazi Germany's slaughter of 6 million Jews took place. "Denying the Holocaust is considered an existential threat in Israel," said historian Tom Segev. "If we are looking for reasons to attack Iran, Ahmadinejad is certainly giving them." But he noted Israel's reversals on Arafat -- for decades describing him in Nazi-like terms, then embracing him during the 1993 interim peace talks, only to shun and threaten him after negotiations broke down in 2000 and a Palestinian revolt began. "There are completely authentic Holocaust sensitivities as well as manipulations. Both exist in the Israeli psychology." HIGH STAKES What makes for especially high stakes in the rhetoric vis-a-vis Iran is the potential for calamitous war with Israel, which is believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal. "Israel went nuclear under Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion (in the 1950s) because of the Holocaust," said Avner Cohen, author of the seminal study "Israel and the Bomb". "But to prevent another Holocaust, Israel must be in a position to threaten a nuclear holocaust. There are many ironies here." Another historian, Michael Oren, suggested that Israel's comparisons of Ahmadinejad to Hitler were not for domestic ears, but rather aimed to shore up Western resolve to curb the Iranian nuclear programme through the threat of U.N. sanctions. Oren said Ben-Gurion made similar remarks to U.S. President John F. Kennedy about Egypt's missile programme in the 1960s. Persuaded, Kennedy pledged military aid to the Jewish state. "I don't think Israelis need much convincing as to the threat posed by Iran," Oren said, adding that he saw Olmert's remarks on Ahmadinejad as "a warning call to the world". That warning may have registered. At least one U.S. senator has described Ahmadinejad in Nazi-like terms, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel has counselled her country to consider its past in pursuing a strong diplomatic stance against Tehran. But according to one senior Israeli government official, Israel imperils potential European support by making Hitler comparisons on the continent where the Holocaust took place. Amir Gissin, the Foreign Ministry's public affairs director, said a recent poll he commissioned found that most Europeans reject parallels drawn between Ahmadinejad and the Nazi leader. "It seems that Europeans just can't make the association between 'their' dictator and this odd little character from the Middle East," Gissin said. "Our conclusion was that personality parallels should be cut out -- on the continent, at least". Such sentiments are endorsed by Robert Rozett, a director of Israel's central Holocaust memorial Yad Vashem. He said Yad Vashem regularly comes out against "inappropriate", politically loaded references to the Nazi genocide in public discourse. This has had many manifestations, from international and Palestinian criticism of Israeli military crackdowns in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, to Jewish settlers who likened their removal by Israel from occupied land to Nazi mass expulsions. Another fact complicating the debate is that Iran has 25,000 Jewish citizens who, while subject to intensive state scrutiny, have seldom complained of severe persecution. "There is room for comparison, but they (Ahmadinejad and Hitler) are coming from different places," Rozett said. "We are very concerned about the Holocaust being trivialised." |
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